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Post by nicolas on Mar 12, 2014 10:41:21 GMT -5
My most advanced seedling : I've get 7 seedlings out of my 10 seeds, not bad. Treatment: cold stratification, scarification with sand paper, and in warm water for 24h. But it may have some unnecessary steps.
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Post by nicolas on Mar 12, 2014 10:50:45 GMT -5
Yes looking for polystachios seeds can be very frustrating. I have found no other source for seeds yet.
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Post by nicolas on Mar 13, 2014 14:21:35 GMT -5
A way i may explore is to try P. ritensis as a bridge between P. lunatus and P. polystachios, hoping to have fertile hybrids without chromosome doubling. alanbishop.proboards.com/post/97062
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Post by MikeH on Oct 1, 2014 20:04:00 GMT -5
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Post by starry on Oct 3, 2014 12:40:06 GMT -5
Found these growing in our woods. There are many different plants. Are they seedlings or are they spreading from roots? ? I didn't plant them. We had extremely cold temperatures last winter, -25°C, so they're pretty hardy. It looks like a few will produce mature seeds. Do you know if they are Phaseolus polystachios ?
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Post by MikeH on Oct 3, 2014 16:09:10 GMT -5
Do you know if they are Phaseolus polystachios ? I think so. The leaf pattern is identical to that shown at www.foodforestfarm.com/all-products/perennial-wild-bean and the flowers look similar although it's hard to tell because their picture isn't very close up. The spring will tell if they are perennial or not. I will try to harvest seed.
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Post by nicolas on Oct 6, 2014 5:37:08 GMT -5
Wow, good catch Mike !
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Post by starry on Oct 6, 2014 8:34:21 GMT -5
Do you know if they are Phaseolus polystachios ? I think so. The leaf pattern is identical to that shown at www.foodforestfarm.com/all-products/perennial-wild-bean and the flowers look similar although it's hard to tell because their picture isn't very close up. The spring will tell if they are perennial or not. I will try to harvest seed. If you get seed and have any extra I would love to swap for some...I have a few Amphicarpaea bracteata I could trade?
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Post by MikeH on Oct 6, 2014 9:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by nicolas on Oct 6, 2014 10:23:52 GMT -5
The drawing you've posted should help you t distinguish ? alanbishop.proboards.com/post/65678From the photo it seems the flower clusters are more from hog peanut but it is difficult to tell
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Post by c2h6 on Oct 30, 2014 13:31:08 GMT -5
Hey guys, I just got interested in breeding a perennial bean. I first saw them listed for sale at Oikos tree crops: www.oikostreecrops.com/Perennials/Nitrogen-Fixers-Flowering/Wild-Bean-Thicket-Bean/p-62-135-1216/I looked them up and found where I can find them in my county, which is in Florida, where they will be less cold hardy than the northern ecotype Oikos sells, but I'm all about local native plants. I talked to a fellow plant breeding enthusiast who had attempted to start a bean breeding project and lost his P. polystachios plants during a freeze (his P . polystachios were from Arizona and in unprotected pots). So if you are state side, get some from Oikos. I plan to go to the wild and find some of the local variety: Phaseolus polystachios var. sinuata. I thought I had found some, but it turned out to be Rhynchosia minima; which is bean-like but not the same. If I find some actual P. polystachios I will share seeds or tubers, just contact me. If we work together we can make some progress. If you find some in the wild, I would recommend digging up the tubers since those will likely flower sooner. My friend advised me to try crossing them with P. coccineus, so that's what I'm planning, but I'll try to use P. vulgaris, too, since the subject came up.
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Post by nicolas on Nov 1, 2014 2:11:14 GMT -5
Hi, from what part of Florida are you ?
Are you going to try with P. lunatus too ? It seems the best shot for now. If you need dry tolerance, Eric Toensmeier advices to use 7 years lima bean as parent.
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Post by nicolas on Nov 1, 2014 2:18:02 GMT -5
Here are some pics, Northern accession : Sourthern accession (Florida indeed) : Flowers & pods from southern accession : I dont think the pods will have time to mature before frost ?
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Post by c2h6 on Nov 4, 2014 11:35:38 GMT -5
Hi Nicolas, Thanks for posting those pictures. I have found herbarium samples and but they are not the same as living color images. I like the leaves of the southern accession, very different for a bean. Have you tried making any crosses yet? I live in central Florida, Polk county, which is right in the middle of the state. I'm halfway between Orlando and Tampa, if that helps. I have checked out a spot where it was documented about 7 years ago, and I couldn't find it growing. It could still be there, but I was in a time crunch and couldn't spend more time looking, or it could already have gone dormant or something. I've also been checking the sides of the road between my home and work, and haven't found it yet. But, I haven't given up, I'll find it yet!
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Post by khoomeizhi on Nov 28, 2014 6:30:05 GMT -5
i have seed from my local population (western north carolina). as nicolas can tell you, i'll eventually send it if you ask - maybe even in time for next season!
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