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Post by imgrimmer on Feb 1, 2021 5:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by Mario Centeno on Feb 11, 2021 0:09:35 GMT -5
This is actually a project I've been working on. I have crossed P. incarnata with P. edulis and now am growing out the the F1 back cross to incarnata. I have been trying to find the biggest and best varieties of edulis and incarnata, as well other species that could contribute useful traits, such as P. tucumanensis, P. caerulea, P. vitifolia, P. miniata, P. stipulata, P. alata, P. phoenicia, and P. quadrangularis. I have some various hybrids that I have produced that I am working with, as well as some tetraploids that I have been able to obtain or make myself. My F1 incarnata x edulis hybrid will be available soon from Brushwood Nursery in Georgia, US, working name 'Green Tiger' (initially it had fruits that were striped due to a form of variegation, but it seems to have lost it, thus invalidating its name in my eyes). It produces fruit if pollinated with P. incarnata, but the fruits typically only have a few seeds in them. The arils you do get are delicious, you just don't get much more than 5. I haven't been successful at back crossing it to edulis as of yet. It has large flowers (3.5 -4" or 10cm), and is very vigorous and floriferous. It's still diploid, so can be useful to making further diploid crosses. It also doesn't spread by roots like incarnata does; it's been in the ground for several years and is yet to put out any root sprouts. Hardiness is unknown. I made an effort to find the biggest fruits I could find in central Florida, checking wild patches where ever I could find them. The biggest fruits I have found were about 75g, which is more than double the average weight of about 30g. There is a lot of variation in flavor and in aril color. The Florida varieties tend to have an unpleasant aftertaste, so I've been collecting varieties from further north which have been described by the collectors as having delicious fruit. Seeds I collected are available from the Passiflora Society International seed bank, look for 'Large Fruit Mix'. My goal is to produce a large fruiting, delicious, self-fertile, hardy, colorful fruit. I've added P. vitifolia and P. miniata to the mix because they are not fed upon by gulf fritillary larvae; I have F1 seed with edulis and incarnata that I will be growing out next season. The added bonus is red flowers. Let me know if you would like to collaborate!
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Post by Mario Centeno on Feb 11, 2021 0:11:03 GMT -5
This is actually a project I've been working on. I have crossed P. incarnata with P. edulis and now am growing out the the F1 back cross to incarnata. I have been trying to find the biggest and best varieties of edulis and incarnata, as well other species that could contribute useful traits, such as P. tucumanensis, P. caerulea, P. vitifolia, P. miniata, P. stipulata, P. alata, P. phoenicia, and P. quadrangularis. I have some various hybrids that I have produced that I am working with, as well as some tetraploids that I have been able to obtain or make myself. My F1 incarnata x edulis hybrid will be available soon from Brushwood Nursery in Georgia, US, working name 'Green Tiger' (initially it had fruits that were striped due to a form of variegation, but it seems to have lost it, thus invalidating its name in my eyes). It produces fruit if pollinated with P. incarnata, but the fruits typically only have a few seeds in them. The arils you do get are delicious, you just don't get much more than 5. I haven't been successful at back crossing it to edulis as of yet. It has large flowers (3.5 -4" or 10cm), and is very vigorous and floriferous. It's still diploid, so can be useful to making further diploid crosses. It also doesn't spread by roots like incarnata does; it's been in the ground for several years and is yet to put out any root sprouts. Hardiness is unknown. I made an effort to find the biggest fruits I could find in central Florida, checking wild patches where ever I could find them. The biggest fruits I have found were about 75g, which is more than double the average weight of about 30g. There is a lot of variation in flavor and in aril color. The Florida varieties tend to have an unpleasant aftertaste, so I've been collecting varieties from further north which have been described by the collectors as having delicious fruit. Seeds I collected are available from the Passiflora Society International seed bank, look for 'Large Fruit Mix'. My goal is to produce a large fruiting, delicious, self-fertile, hardy, colorful fruit. I've added P. vitifolia and P. miniata to the mix because they are not fed upon by gulf fritillary larvae; I have F1 seed with edulis and incarnata that I will be growing out next season. The added bonus is red flowers. Let me know if you would like to collaborate!
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Post by vivid on Mar 22, 2021 4:48:20 GMT -5
c2h6, I have been working with P. incarnata and have at least two superior-flavored fruit selections. One is a very heavy producer. I'd be quite interested in collaborating on a project to get edulis x incarnata, especially using the flavicarpa form of edulis. I'm in zone 6-7, in Virginia. Please seek out my e-mail and contact me via our business site: Botanique; we sell Sarracenia, Pitcher Plants. I won't list contact here, due to spambots. I have a large seed bank and collection of unusual fruits and vegetables, root crops. There's also some seed in the fridge (fresh) from two of the best selections: P. incarnata Bill Scholl's White x ( incarnata Bill Scholl's White x VA purple flowered). Hope to hear from you! Best Regards, Rob Sacilotto I ordered some maypop from Peaceful Heritage, had a friend from another forum send me some mixed heritage seeds alongside a superior fruit he found and now i'm interested in yours. I'll shoot a message soon, lovely site btw.
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