|
|
Post by philip on Jan 27, 2015 3:16:42 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by darrenabbey on Feb 1, 2015 1:30:22 GMT -5
Interesting plant.
|
|
|
|
Post by philip on Jul 1, 2016 16:34:41 GMT -5
My plant has recovered well from being transplanted and is starting to make fruit. This time round i covered it with a protective net against the birds. I will try and root cuttings and maybe grow out some seed, too. Sorry for bad picture quality!    |
|
|
|
Post by John on Jun 2, 2017 18:20:02 GMT -5
It looks like a gooseberry x currant cross to me.
|
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Jul 17, 2017 9:12:07 GMT -5
The pear or teardrop shape genes seem to be in gooseberries and currants, at least some kinds, and since this retains a thorny trait, maybe it is just a selection or cross of Ribes divaricatum with that berry form expressed. That would make it a gooseberry, or it could be a seedling of something like Orus 8, which is said to be an interspecies cross, but Orus 8, being thorny, looks like it is just Ribes divaricatum to some.
|
|
|
|
Post by philip on Jul 17, 2017 14:42:04 GMT -5
Hi there,
as i wrote before, i don't know what this plant is exactly, but i have a ribes divaricatum growing in my place also and all i can say is it's not the same at all. The russian giant Berry is not a giant as far as its berries are concerned but as far as the plant is concerned.
It grows more vigourously than the ribes divaricatum, it makes more fruit and it has never shown any sign of illness.
The size of the fruit is the same as ribes divaricatum with a very nice taste, but the size of the plant is much bigger.
I have cut loads of shoots off last winter so i can't really say how tall it can get but from what i read it can grow up to 4 metres (13 foot) tall, hence the name russian giant Berry.
|
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Jul 17, 2017 20:42:17 GMT -5
Hi,
Well you can't really say they are not the same at all. They are both Ribes and look like it very much. In particular they look like gooseberries with a pear shape. Granted, this variety or cross may be tall and robust and exhibit hybrid vigor. But if one parent is indeed Ribes divaricatum then we can expect it shares a considerable number of Ribes divaricatum's genes and traits. It may be taller and more vigorous and look and taste different to you but it looks like a pear shaped gooseberry or hybrid gooseberry to me nonetheless. Ribes divaricatum is crossed into other gooseberry cultivars as I am sure you are aware. I have one such hybrid of R. divaricatum here myself. My point is, it would be interesting to know if this is an intergeneric hybrid of some sort, but the more likely sort of accidental cross (assumed if nobody knows the other parent) is some other kind of gooseberry with pear shaped fruit genes. Josta types required chromosome doubling to become very fruitful, if I am not mistaken. Also this fruit shape can be found in other gooseberries and even currants. It is expressed in some of my gooseberries and in some of my Ribes aureum golden currants.
Interesting Ribes though. I could not find much on it either, even using translators.
|
|
|
|
Post by philip on Aug 16, 2017 16:00:03 GMT -5
If i don't forget i will try and post a picture of the flowers next year and maybe another picture of the flowers of my ribes divaricatum also.
That should help to see how closely or not they are related.
|
|
|
|
Post by darrenabbey on Aug 29, 2017 23:33:05 GMT -5
I recently found an old Ribes plant at a mostly unattended homestead farm from back in the day. At first I thought it was a currant, due to the dark color and fruit size. However, the fruit taste more like gooseberries and they have the smaller seeds of gooseberries (compared to the currants I've been able to sample). It looks like a pretty good match for Ribes divaricatum. I collected seeds to grow next year.
|
|
|
|
Post by Vlad on Jan 14, 2019 14:05:51 GMT -5
The fruit looks more like the Ribes dikuscha,also when i google translate what says in the description of the link(www.xn--rarittengrtnereimanfredhans-fkce.de/Russische-Riesenbeere) it says in german:Ein Exot unter den Beerensträuchern. Die Honigbeere ist ein Elternteil, den anderen kennt man nicht. Dieser Busch kann über 4 Meter hoch werden, natürlich durch Schnitt auch kleiner zu halten. Blau-schwarze Beeren mit honigartigem Geschmack. Extrem frosthart und anspruchslos. Selbstfruchtbar. Getopft.
And with google translate: An exotic under the berry bushes. The honeyberry is one parent, the other one is not known. This bush can grow up to over 4 meters, of course, cut to keep smaller. Blue-black berries with honey-like taste. Extremely frost hardy and undemanding. Self fertile. Potted
So honeyberry(Lonicera caerulea) work on hybridizing with currants ? Thats interesting if it is true,just hoping it is not GMO,by the way. I know that honeyberry are very frost hardy
Philip where did you heard it was in 2005 ? I could not find any information..
|
|
